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Should Girls Be Allowed to Compete in Boys Sports?

An Arizona high school baseball team forfeited a game to avoid playing against a girl.

The National League was founded in February of 1876, and since the senior circuit kicked off baseball in this country women have gained equal rights and made a huge impact on the sports landscape both in the United States and abroad.

Recently a story came out of Arizona where Our Lady of Sorrows Academy forfeited a state championship game, refusing to play Mesa Prep solely because the team’s starting second basemen is a girl.

Mesa Prep is a Phoenix high school and the school does not have a softball team, so Paige Sulzbach, a 15-year-old girl decided to try her hand in baseball. Not only did Sulzbach make the team but she is the squad’s starting second basewoman.

Out of respect for Our Lady of Sorrows, Sulzbach sat out during Mesa Prep’s two regular season match ups against them, but with the State Championship on the line, she was determined to play. While no one from the school has commented on the issue, Our Lady of Sorrows released a statement saying the decision to forfeit the game was consistent with the school’s policy prohibiting co-ed sports.

In the past female athletes have competed at high levels against male counterparts, recently Mo Isom, an LSU soccer player tried out for the school’s football team. She was cut, but Isom vows to go out for the Tigers again.

At the high school level do you think girls should be allowed to compete on a boys team?

Mark Rinaldi May 15, 2012 at 07:50 AM
I have always felt that the name on the front of the jersey is much more important then the name on the back of the jersey. Shouldnt that be the same for gender too? If a second basemen (or second basewomen) can hit, run and field better then her male counterparts then I think she should be allowed to play and I would love to have her on any team I play for or coach.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 07:57 AM
"Felt" is the operative word here. Feelings aren't the same as the fruits of reasoning. But I'll put it this way: What you say is fine as long as it goes for boys on girls' teams, too.
Mark Rinaldi May 15, 2012 at 08:36 AM
Which is fine with me as long as it doesnt risk anyone's safety. I think non contact sports can be mixed but no one wants to see anyone get hurt.
Francis T McVetty May 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Chris, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
Chris May 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM
What you both fail to notice is that I never asked a question.
Francis T McVetty May 15, 2012 at 12:17 PM
This problem is then carried into everyday life. Womean want to become Police officers and Fireman. That's fine, but all of a sudden the "standards " are changed. Why? Because the standards set for the position were for men. Again as I have pointed out, men and woman are different. From the time of the cave men, men were stronger and still are for the most part. They were the hunters. The woman were the nurtures. I'm not saying that woman can't do those particular jobs, but the standards should not be LOWERED to accommodate them. This has, in fact, been done. Special rules for one sex and special rules for another ? Sound fair to you? Leveling the playing field does not always result in good outcomes.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 01:30 PM
I figured you'd try to be consistent. However, as you should realize, if we allowed this wholesale it would result in the elimination of sports opportunities for girls. Eventually, boys would come to dominate all the positions on competitive teams and virtually all of them elsewhere. But, hey, that's fine with me.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Francis, the liberal agenda has nothing to do with fairness.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 01:33 PM
Francis, thank you, but I myself wasn't going to give him the answer on a silver platter. Hopefully, though, he checked out the link and now knows something he didn't before. Then again, some people are content to remain ignorant.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 01:44 PM
I myself couldn't find the piece about the soccer match, but it certain;y happened. I even remember the score: 2-1. The problem is that it wasn't considered newsworthy, so it didn't get wide exposure. But I have put out a feeler on it (research is part of my business) and will post the link when and if I get it. For the moment, however, I'll point out that the result shouldn't surprise you. The women's world record for the mile is 4:12; the boys' American high school record is 3:52. (And this is easily verified.) In fact, boys' high school records are far better than women's world records in all the events, and this intersex performance gap, with some variation, holds across all physical sports. Thus, that the best high school soccer players would be superior to the best women is intuitive. To tell you the truth, the boys probably had an extremely bad game to only have won 2-1. In fact, a gap between the sexes exists even in most non-physical endeavors. In chess, the best women can't hold a candle to the best men (this is what prompted Gary Kasparov to say that a woman would never be world champion). In auto racing, while there is Danica Patrick, not only isn't she as good as the better men, but she's also a rarity. And then there's putting in golf. When I checked the statistics some years ago (I'm a golf fan), I found that the best putter on the LPGA Tour would only have ranked about 60th on the men's tour. This, despite the fact that the men play on tougher greens.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 01:46 PM
And au naturale, too, JD?
Ross Revira May 15, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Woman are prohibited in many areas of the military that would put them in direct combat. Men do not have that option. Upon entering basic training men's hair is shaved off. Women's hair is not. Equality would not allow that, would it? If a man wants to play a women's sport such as field hockey in NY (only in America is it primarily a women's sport) a physical test is given . If the results of that test show the man is too strong or fast they are prohibited from playing. There is no such regulation for a woman playing a man's sport. Is that equal? True equality has no exceptions unless you are one of the "discriminated" group.
Ross Revira May 15, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Woman are prohibited in many areas of the military that would put them in direct combat. Men do not have that option. Upon entering basic training men's hair is shaved off. Women's hair is not. Equality would not allow that, would it? If a man wants to play a women's sport such as field hockey in NY (only in America is it primarily a women's sport) a physical test is given . If the results of that test show the man is too strong or fast they are prohibited from playing. There is no such regulation for a woman playing a man's sport. Is that equal? True equality has no exceptions unless you are one of the "discriminated" group.
Mark Rinaldi May 15, 2012 at 04:17 PM
No sir, because if 30 boys at every school wanted to play field hockey, or volley ball or any other traditional sports then it would be up to the school to recognize this and create a male team.
Rob McGunn May 15, 2012 at 04:36 PM
Turn the question around: can boys compete on Girls teams? Right now on Long Island there is a story (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-57429015/n.y-boy-kicked-off-girls-field-hockey-team-for-superior-play/) of a boy being thrown off the girls field hockey team only for the reason that he is too good a player. As often the Politically Correct are more Political than Correct. They want it both ways allowing girls on boys teams but want to protect exclusive girls teams too.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 06:25 PM
Ross, You are correct, of course. But remember that liberalism has nothing to do with fairness. It's a mental disorder.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Mark, Not necessarily so. Girls are often allowed to play in boys' competitions even if there's a corresponding girls' competition. Equality would dictate that we should return the favor. In this case, boys who couldn't qualify for the boys' arena could take over the girls" one. And why not? If we're all "equal," why should girls have a separate, protected, inferior arena in which to compete? And if we're not equal, then why assume that it's wrong to exclude girls from boys' arenas simply because they're girls? People need to think these matters through more carefully, as opposed to just adopting PC dogma.
Mike Sabini May 15, 2012 at 07:51 PM
There has been a reversal on the story about the boy playing field hockey on the Island- http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_/id/7933109/new-york-boy-keeling-pilaro-play-girls-field-hockey-team
Mark Rinaldi May 15, 2012 at 08:14 PM
Im glad to see a reversal in the decision. Although changing the rules because someone is too good is something that happens in pro sports at times too. The NBA allowed teams to play zone to stop Shaq, but i doubt they would ever tell someone "you are not allowed to play". I am glad to see the young man is allowed to play the sport he loves, I just hope he doesnt get hurt by social stigmas that will follow a young man playing on a girl's team.
Francis T McVetty May 15, 2012 at 09:24 PM
I just love those that they don't want kids to keep scores now a days.I might offend someone or even hurt their egos. You play a game and no one wins because there is no score kept. Now let me tell you, the kids know what the score is. This PC crap is going to ruin a whole generation of youths.
Paladin May 15, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Yes, the first time I heard of that phenomenon, the story was out of Massachusetts (big surprise). As far as solving the problem is concerned, to use a variation on an old saying, a good start is 10,000 liberals at the bottom of the sea.
Issy May 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Yes let us look at liberal Massachusetts. Most educated populous, lowest divorce rate, lowest teenage pregnancy, high standard of living, best overall health care, etc etc. Does not matter what quality of life issue Mass. is at or near the top. In fact most liberal blue states are net contributors to the United States,most red states are not. The right in this country will not be happy until all states look like Mississippi.
Paladin May 16, 2012 at 01:51 AM
Issy, Since you're trumpeting liberals' erudition, this rightist will mention that the word you're looking for is "populace." As to your claims, as usual, you're wrong. Utah, one of the most Republican states in the nation, is number one in quality of life. (See here: http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/11/united-states-healthy-lifestyle-health-healthy-living.html) Massachusetts did come in eighth; however, if you examine the rankings, you'll find the upper echelons occupied by both red and blue states. Moreover, the main factor in this is wealth and whiteness: states ranking highly are wealthier and generally have small minority populations (although there are a couple of exceptions to the last thing, such as West Virginia). For instance, in the state you cited, Mississippi, blacks are upwards of 36 percent of the populace. (Hmm, perhaps liberal MA can finance the migration of poor blacks to MA; the libtards would be doing their good deed for the day and increasing their "diversity," which they claim is so beneficial). As for contributing to the federal treasury, the libtard states' greater taxation is poetic justice. They vote for big government, so I'm happy as can be that they're getting hosed. Heck, if I had my way, liberals would be taxed at 90 percent so that they'd experience the true consequences of their ideology. Lastly, I'll point out that, despite red states' lower income, they give more to charity even in inflation adjusted dollars. Libtards are skinflints.
Ross Revira May 16, 2012 at 11:18 AM
You might be on to something Issy. Republican Sen Scott Brown (Teddy's seat) and former Governor and soon to be the 45th President (3-7 points ahead against a sitting rock star ) Mitt Romney who both serve/served the great state of Massachusetts. You forgot to mention they have lower taxes
LI May 16, 2012 at 01:40 PM
As the parent of a daughter who plays boys ice hockey.....I have to say that if the girl or boy who's school has no team for their gender, if they are good enough to make the team then god bless....it is up to the coach and parent to determine if it is safe for their child to be involved. It is not for another school or parent to judge!!!!!!If it scares you that my kid is out ther too bad,she is susceptible to anything else that every other player is.......If you don't like it because she's better than your so, too bad too.....she's earned it and has to work 100 times harder just to get the same playing time....constatntly having to prove herself....simply get over it and deal!
Conservative NYer May 16, 2012 at 01:46 PM
@Paladin.... you just gave me such a chuckle!! Hen-pecked love it.
Mark Rinaldi May 17, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Well said.
Conservative NYer May 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Really? Do you have a link to back up that statement? I'd like to educate myself.
Bob January 09, 2013 at 07:43 PM
I think it's fair for girls to play boy sports it's fair
aafnawkamka January 09, 2013 at 07:45 PM
I think it is fair for girls to play all boy sports though they should not be alooud to play contact sports

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